It’s a wonderful thing indeed that pop figures of John and Yoko’s magnitude offer Pop Feminist so much fab material.

Here’s a selection from a 1980 BBC radio interview where J&Y discuss the inversion of gender roles in the household (listen to the audio here):

BBC: You said that you reversed roles, that John—
Yoko: Yes my dear.
BBC: –looked after Sean. How good a cook are you John?
John: not bad not great. I learned- I mastered the art of rice. They say anyone can cook but few can cook it well. I can cook it reasonably well. I can do fish—
Yoko: You’re a good bread maker
John: I’ve learned to make bread. Which I was thrilled with! I took a Polaroid of my first bread (laughs) you know, just these two lumps—I couldn’t believe they came out like that—
Yoko: In a good old macho tradition. I mean, you had to record it in history.
John: I was thrilled! That’s not macho, I mean anybody would it was the first bread. It looked great you know and it tasted good. That was pretty damn good. And so, for about half a year or a year I was providing the food for Yoko, the baby, even the staff was eating! I was so excited that I could do it that I would stop—bring all the staff to eat lunch you know. But after a bit it was wearing me out. I was thinking geez, cuz life becomes as most housewives know,
Yoko: A routine
John: A routine between the meals you see. Those people are saying, well weren’t you thinking about this that and the other—you don’t because you think from breakfast. Once the baby’s had the breakfast, he’s had the breakfast, you’ve got about an hour—
Yoko: [laughs]
John: Before breakfast starts you’ve got a little time for yourself, a coffee and a smoke or whatever, and then everybody comes out and wants to eat. Okay, feed them. You don’t get a gold record, they just swallow it!
Yoko: [laughs]
John: If they swallow it, that means you were a hit, if you don’t swallow it, it means you did something wrong, you know—
Yoko: And that’s what most women go through!
John: That’s how I really feminized in a different way. And it was quite an experience. I’d say equivalent to going to a monastery and withdraw, by becoming—it was a zen experience to master that cooking thing and and put as much energy into that bread—
Yoko: Which disappears very quickly.
John: –and make it right! Not just wack it away, I made it right, not just powder from a pack of Pillsbury, just it blows up into bread. From scratch. With the flour and the hand. Doing it by hand. And then the time between breakfast and lunch is very quick. You hardly have time to read the paper. That’s presuming it ain’t raining and the baby sitter can take the child take the boy out so that you get a break from the constant “daddy look at this, daddy look at that” you know, “look at me, look at me, look at me”. Feed the cats. Then it’s bloody lunch time.
Yoko: [laughs]
John: So this when on for about 9 months and I really enjoyed it, you know because I constant, I put my mind to it. But the meals is what you live. You live a regulation between meals. On the other side of me, that had always been served by women whether it was me aunti Mimi, God bless you wherever you are, how are you dear? Or whoever served by females, wives girlfriends, you just expect to flop and drunk and expect some girlfriend to make the breakfast the next morning even though she’d been drunk as a dog too with you at the party certainly there were females…suddenly to get on the other side of the counter. It was quite an experience and I appreciate what women have done for me all my life and I had never really thought about it.
Yoko: A woman’s work is never done
John: Oh, it’s so true love! It’s so true! It’s never ever done!
Yoko: And you know, he makes this bread
John:– and I done the dishes
Yoko: If you make bread you want people to eat it you know, and if they don’t eat it’s a personal insult. So he went through this, “well, you’re not going to eat this? But I made it!’ No, it’s just that I’m not hungry thank you, you know.
John: Your mother is always hanging around saying eat up, clean up your plate, because she put all this sweat into it and the kid comes in and [whiney voice] “I don’t like sausage!”
BBC: Did you become a dictatorial mother, and did you not appreciate—
Yoko: He was going through the experience in a sort of tongue-in-cheek way and—
John:— they love the bread. I make it Friday, it’s supposed to last a week, it’ll be gone Saturday afternoon. Like pigs. Womph. It’s gone, so I started buying the bread again.
Yoko: [laughs]
John: So I started buying the bread.
Yoko: If we don’t eat it, your offended, if we eat it up you think, “well, now I have to make it again”
John: I enjoyed it. I looked on it as a discipline. An absolute discipline. And that’s how I approached it. And through that I got into a whole other world.

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